KOLDERSTOK BATAVIA / HAARLEM
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Jaques
Forum veteraan
De beplanking van de Batavia dient te stroken met de streepjes op de spanten, als je deze aanhoud kan het (bijna) niet mis gaan Heinrich. In mijn beleving kan het ongeveer zo wel kloppen hoor, je moet wel even de voorzijde goed in de gaten houden dat daar de beplanking niet te hoog gaat oplopen, anders kom je niet uit op de hoogte van de luizenplecht.
Maar ik ben het wel met mijn voorgangers eens hoor, voor een eerste beplanking zit deze er heel netjes op
Maar ik ben het wel met mijn voorgangers eens hoor, voor een eerste beplanking zit deze er heel netjes op
Hans Groenenberg
Forum veteraan
Goed bezig Heinrich
Dear Friends
I trust that you are still exercising care out there and looking after yourself - and that does not only apply to COVID-19 - but also to your health in general. So first I want to start with a big shout-out to Piet. Please take care of yourself and take things easy - now is the time to take the warning signals seriously.
I want to start off my update by going back to my previous post and Hans's (@Hoosterw) comments on the port side berghouten:
Now if something is not right, it is not right
and it has to be done over. The problem was that the Chinese PVA glue that I use (even though it is not water-resistant) just refused to come loose with water, acetone or heat or all 3 combined. 
So, there was only one solution. Sand down the two berghouten until they were flush with the rest of the planking and do it over again. As you can imagine, that was a big mess and at times I really doubted my decision. But to use Bouke's expression: "Ik het maar doorgebuffeld."
With the gluing of the top wanden above the berghouten up to the deck level, I called in the Admiral to help me check the lines and got more help than I asked for:
At times I glued two planks at the same time to make sure that the alignment is correct this time.
And then left everything to dry overnight.
You will notice that I "nailed" the berghouten to the hull which was done on purpose as they will be "treenailed" or have simulated "nails" put in them later on.
And this morning. Now I am finally happy with the bakboord side (thank you Hans!) and can start on the stuurboord side. Luckily the berghouten on that side are perfect so it should go a bit quicker. As you can see I have already opened the geschutpoorten (I just have to do redo the one closest to the agterstewe, because of the berghout that was replaced). They still have to be finished off, but for now I am happy with them.
The other news is that I will start teaching at the centre again from Sunday, so progress will slow down. I am not complaining though, because I have been out of action now for almost 4 months.
Thank you all for watching and for following. As usual, your comments and thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
Kind regards - Heinrich
I trust that you are still exercising care out there and looking after yourself - and that does not only apply to COVID-19 - but also to your health in general. So first I want to start with a big shout-out to Piet. Please take care of yourself and take things easy - now is the time to take the warning signals seriously.
I want to start off my update by going back to my previous post and Hans's (@Hoosterw) comments on the port side berghouten:
Now if something is not right, it is not right
and it has to be done over. The problem was that the Chinese PVA glue that I use (even though it is not water-resistant) just refused to come loose with water, acetone or heat or all 3 combined. So, there was only one solution. Sand down the two berghouten until they were flush with the rest of the planking and do it over again. As you can imagine, that was a big mess and at times I really doubted my decision. But to use Bouke's expression: "Ik het maar doorgebuffeld."With the gluing of the top wanden above the berghouten up to the deck level, I called in the Admiral to help me check the lines and got more help than I asked for:
At times I glued two planks at the same time to make sure that the alignment is correct this time.
And then left everything to dry overnight.
You will notice that I "nailed" the berghouten to the hull which was done on purpose as they will be "treenailed" or have simulated "nails" put in them later on.
And this morning.
Now I am finally happy with the bakboord side (thank you Hans!) and can start on the stuurboord side. Luckily the berghouten on that side are perfect so it should go a bit quicker. As you can see I have already opened the geschutpoorten (I just have to do redo the one closest to the agterstewe, because of the berghout that was replaced). They still have to be finished off, but for now I am happy with them.The other news is that I will start teaching at the centre again from Sunday, so progress will slow down. I am not complaining though, because I have been out of action now for almost 4 months.
Thank you all for watching and for following. As usual, your comments and thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
Kind regards - Heinrich
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Stephan Kertész
Forum veteraan
Het fijne van hout is dat herstelwerzaamheden nagenoeg onzichtbaar gemaakt kunnen worden. De voldoening is soms zelfs nog groter als de voldoening als het de eerste keer gelijk goed ging.
Netjes opgelost Heinrich, en zolang het probleem verholpen kan worden , komt alles toch weer goed
@Arno Verstegen Baie dankie, Arno. Yes I am very happy that I could save that one in time.
Dear Friends
Today I just took things easy and had a good look at the placement for the extra cannons and need your expert advice please.
The above drawing is of a 32-cannon VOC Spiegelretourschip - like the Haarlem. The placement of the geschutpoorten in blue is exactly the same as the Batavia so all is good there. The three geschutpoorten in yellow would be the extra ones that I would have to install on the Batavia. So this looks to me as if they are mounted on the verdek which is also good, because there is ample space for that. It does mean that they won't really be visible from above, but so be it.
BUT look at the following photograph with courtesy of Koos's Batavia.
The yellow rectangle indicates the position of the three extra cannons if they had been mounted on the verdek - right behind the rigging! (And it is the same on Danny's Batavia and all the others too). So one shot from the 24-pounders and there goes the rigging ...
Any ideas gentlemen on where I can find a home for those six cannons.
Many thanks in advance guys!
Vriendelijk groet - Heinrich
Today I just took things easy and had a good look at the placement for the extra cannons and need your expert advice please.
The above drawing is of a 32-cannon VOC Spiegelretourschip - like the Haarlem. The placement of the geschutpoorten in blue is exactly the same as the Batavia so all is good there. The three geschutpoorten in yellow would be the extra ones that I would have to install on the Batavia. So this looks to me as if they are mounted on the verdek which is also good, because there is ample space for that. It does mean that they won't really be visible from above, but so be it.
BUT look at the following photograph with courtesy of Koos's Batavia.
The yellow rectangle indicates the position of the three extra cannons if they had been mounted on the verdek - right behind the rigging! (And it is the same on Danny's Batavia and all the others too). So one shot from the 24-pounders and there goes the rigging ...
Any ideas gentlemen on where I can find a home for those six cannons.
Many thanks in advance guys!
Vriendelijk groet - Heinrich
daar zou ik me nog geen zorgen overmaken je kan je want nog altijd opsplitsen in bv 3;3;3;2 als je oude prenten bekijkt zie je dit meer dus 3 want touwen voor het eerste kanons gat dan 3 tussen de gaten weer 3 er tussen en 2 er achter. het is erg verschillend bij die schepen dus daar kan je een beetje mee spelen zonder iets fout te doen en geen wanten voor je kanonsgaten te zetten